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c-span.org/podcast. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ this week 2024 campaign trail was on the road with vice president harris as she was in florida delivering remarks on women's health care as a six week abortion ban went into effect in the sunshine state. from michigan former president trump at one of two midwest rose he held out also highlights from a a press conference with the poor people's campaign plus an in-depth look at the u.s. senate race in arizona this year. but first the latest swing state polls in the presidential race, emerson college and the hill newspaper looked at the presumptive democratic and republican presidential nominee support in seven key swing states that are likely to decide

this year's election. in alln, of them arizona, georg, michigan, nevada, north carolina, pennsylvania andnd wisconsin, former president trump held a slight advantage but only one of those leads in arizona was outside the polls three-point margin ofrr error. an endeavor to boost the campaign standing, president biden vice president harris were yet again on the road hitting on the message of women's rights. the vice president was in jacksonville, florida, and cnn reporter judd and him gently noted her speech included at least 18 correct dimensions of formerru president trump, most f the new marks she's made this cycle. next, some of that event in jacksonville. >> across our nation, we witness a full on assault state-by-state on reproductive freedom. and understand he was to blame, former president donald trump

did this. donald trump and picked three members of the united states supreme court because he intended for them to overturn roe v. wade. and as he intended, they did. now, many of you here may recall i serve on the judiciary committee as a united states senator. and i question two of those nominees. to one of them i asked, quote, i will quote myself, can you think of any law that gives the government the power to make decisions about the male body? and it will come as no shock to everyone here, he had no good answer. and that day we all knew what was about to come.

and it happened, just as donald trump intended. now, present day, because of donald trump, more than 20 states have abortion bans.rt more than 20 trump abortion bans. and today, this very day, at the stroke of midnight another trump abortion ban wentnt into effect here in florida. as of this morning, 4 million women in the state woke up with fewer reproductive freedoms than they had last night. this is the new reality under a trump abortion ban. starting this morning, medical professionals could be sent to prison for up to five years for

providing reproductive care, even earlier in pregnancy. reality under a trump abortion ban starting this morning women in florida became subject tot n abortion ban so extreme it applies before many women even though they are pregnant, which by the way tells us the extremist who wrote this man either don't know how a woman's body works, or they simply don't care. trump says he wants to leave abortion up to the states, he said, up to the states. all right, so here's how that works out. today, one in three women of reproductive age live in the state with the trump abortion ban. many with no exceptions for rape or incest. this truly is a health care

crisis, and donald trump is the architect. and by the way, that is not the fact he hides. in fact, he brags about it. he has said the collection of abortion bans in the state is, quote, working the way it's supposed to. just this weekend an interview he said states have the right to monitor pregnant women to enforce the bans. and states have the right to punish pregnant women for seeking out abortion care. so, florida, the contrast in this election could not be more clear. basically under donald trump it would be fair game for women to be monitored and punished by the government, whereas joe biden and i have a different view. we believe the government should

never come between a woman and her doctor. [applause] so here's what a second trump term looks like. more bans, more suffering, less freedom. but we are not going to let that happen. [applause] because, you see, we trust women. we trust women to know what is in their own best interest. and this november up and down the ballot reproductive freedom is on the ballot. and you, the leaders, you, the people, have the power to protect it with your vote. donald trump may think you can take florida for granted. it isow your power that will sed joe biden and me back to the white house. [cheers and applause]

>> following vice president harris his remarks in florida, the campaign put out this ad. >> donald trump's new comments on abortion saying thatrt some states might choose to monitor women's pregnancies to possibly prosecute a new abortion ban. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> two years ago i became pregnant with a babyat i desperately wanted, and he the fetus would have a fatal condition and never survive. because of the new laws in texas i had to flee my own state to receive treatment. if donald trump is elected that is the end of a woman's right to choose. there will be no place too turn. every state, , even the ones whe abortion is currently legal, and thate means every woman in evey state is at risk. donald trump took away our freedom. we need leaders that will protect our rights and not take them away, and that is a joe

biden and kamala harris. >> former president trump the presumptive republican presidential nominee was also on the trail the same day as vice president harris. as it was was one of the days he didn have to attend his new york city criminal trial centered on hush money payments to adult film star stormy daniels. the former president held two rallies on wednesday, one in wisconsin and one in michigan. both battleground states he won in 2016 but lost in 2020. thnext, some of the rally in michigan with comments from the former president on the criminal trial and abortion policy. >> joe biden is the worst, most incompetent, most corrupt president in history of our country, and crooked joe knows that in a fair election he's going down in a landslide. every poll showing that. you've seen the polls. that's why biden is trying so hard to jail, he wants to jail his political opponent like they do in third world countries who

abed -- banana republics. what's to give it a shot. there's only one problem. every one of these fake cases is bullshit. every single one of them. terrible. and as you know i come here today -- thank you. as you know i've come here today from new york city where i'm being forced to sit her days on end and the kangaroo court room with a corrupt and conflicted judge enduring a biden side show trial at the hands of a marxist district attorney, source back, who's taking orders from the

biden administration. all of these trials -- by the way, so if i didn't run or if ii came in fourth i i would have no problem right now. i would be in a beautiful someplace. i'll be someplace. you knoww what, i would rather e with you. i would much rather be with you, much rather. i would much rather be with you. but what you're witnessing inle new york is not a legal proceeding. it's an unlawful exercise in very stupid and very evil politics. but here's the good news. it's driven the poll numbers higher than we've ever had before because people get it. it's a scam and they get it. these indictments are not just an attack on me. they are an assault on the constitutional rights of all americans. they did this because it's an attack on a political opponent and a lot of political opponent wouldn't do to well under the circumstances but i have a

relationship with the people and i explained it to them, and they understand it's a scam and understand it's the worst president in history of our country by far the couldn't get elected dogcatcher except he's in a party that's really, really good at cheating. that's one thing. they're not good at policy. hthey are horrible, open border, high interest rates, high taxes, bad mr. trump everything is bad. no home. everything is bad. but the greater cheating in elections. it's about the only thing they do well. in the middle of a presidential election incipit the republican nominee for president is being attacked like nobody's ever been attacked before, but all of that being done and all of that being said, the fake charges come the legal targets, everything, and you know we got tremendous reviews some great people, najonathan turley, andy mccarthy, mark levin, greg gerrit, sean hannity.

the judge by what is the most conflicted person in the history, i don't think there's ever been a more conflicted judge, crooked and conflicted. i unconstitutionally gag. he gagged me so not even supposed to be, , i was a talk d you because he gags me. i'm, think of it, former president and a very popular -- with the greatest economy in history. we had we had the best safest border we ever had in history. and by the way while were on it, it was always the plan from the great legal experts of this country and even the world, everybody, democrats, republicans come liberals,s, conservatives, they wanted to get abortion out of the federal government, you know that. after 50 years we were able to do that, and now you are seeing it done. some people will be happy, some people will be okay, some people

won't be quite as happy, some will be thrilled, some of the decisions there are, really they vary quite a a bit. remember this as a politician you have to have heart. rtyou have to have what your het determines and jeff to fight for what is in your heart and what's the right thing to do. but remember you also y have to get elected.or getting elected is also important. not only on this issue but on taxes and military and everything else, you have to get elected' because if you don't get elected because back to the federal government perhaps or yet many of the things that can go wrong. so goha with your heart, do whas right, we did something that took courage. we did something a buddy wanted to see, but now i say it's up to the states and what you think the supreme court justices for having the courage, clarence thomas, samuel alito, john roberts, brett kavanaugh, neil gorsuch, amy coney barrett for

the wisdom and. the courage to o this. this took great deal of courage and a great deal of wisdom to do this, and allll we want to do is we have to get our country back together. it takes a very long issue, an issue that was never going to be resolved according to many. it brings it back to the states were every legal scholar and were most people wanted to see it, and it's working as i just want to thank the supreme court for the wisdom and for the courage and thank you very much. >> one last bit of news from the presidential race. and if at a presidential candidate robert f. kennedy campaign said he had secured ballot access in california, the p nation's most populous state. that makes four states total where he's already on the ballot incling utah, hawaii and michigan. another six where heet the signature threshold but n yet been certified his campgn also called on president biden to get out of

e race calling the incumbent a spoiler. next,ideo to campaign release on the internal polling that led mr. kennedy to label president biden a spoiler. >> my name is jonathan director of content and team canada. today we'll be talking about numbers. by now you probably know that robert f. kennedy, jr. is running as an independent candidate for president of the united states. but you probablyu have heard in spoken like this. >> for the candidate. >> spoiler. spoiler? in this election, we looked into it and now we have the answers. now, the preface here is that most polls are conducted by mainstream media outlets, and typically they have 1000 to 3000 or so respondents per poll. in most of those polls have about a plus or -3% margin of error. well, we conducted a nationwide poll of over two 5000 respond ins and our margin of error was

0.6%. that makes it by far the most accurate predictor of the 2024 election that we have thus far. all right. let's dive into the maps. this is the head to head matchup between biden and trump. trump with to 94 and biden with to 44. trump wins by 50 electoral votes. and if you're a political nerd like myself, you know that that is not very close. and with bobby as a third party candidate, biden only picks up two additional states. so he's still loses to trump. all right. now, here is where it gets very interesting in a head to head matchup. robert f kennedy jr wins 367 electoral votes versus joe biden's won 71. now, that is what we call a landslide. and what's even crazier about these numbers is when you look at the ad spend of these two campaigns, biden has spent over. $36 million in advertising since october 1st. and we have spent a little over to now the next head to head

matchup that we pulled was bobby versus trump. obviously, this is a very close election, but bobby still wins. all right. so to recap, biden cannot beat trump in a head to head race and it is not close. biden cannot beat trump in a three way race and it's still not very close. bobby wins in a landslide against biden head to head and bobby beats trump head to head. so who is actually the spoiler here? because a spoiler is a non winning candidate whose presence on the ballot affects which candidate wins a non winning candidate affecting a possible winning candidate. so if you do not want to see donald trump become the next president of the united states, there is only one candidate running who has the power to beat him. and it is robert f kennedy jr. from the nation's capital c-span also covered a press conference held this past week by the poor people's campaign, which announced a mass march on

washington this summer. poor and low wage voters are saying in this season that we our vote, our demands and not merely support for candidates and what we're doing is mobilizing those votes and saying to candidates, if you want these votes, then talk to poor and low wage folk. the number one reason poor low wage vote. do not vote, according to the study, is awaken. a sleeping giant is nobody talks to them. we have debate after debate for senate for president and the issues that affect poor and low wage persons do not come up. we had in 19 in 2020 a bill come up to pass a living wage of $15, an hour in a union which would have lifted 52 million poor and low wage americans out of poverty and low wage 43% of african americans alone. most of the persons would have been white and women and eight democrat right. and 49 republicans said no to 52

million americans. that 70% of americans want a raise in living wage because we haven't raised the minimum wage, says 2009. poor and low wage folks, moral and religious leaders are saying no more, we must mobilize this power. and we want the media to be clear that when we talk about poverty, we are talking about in all of its areas, race, gender, geography, a third of all poor people live in the south. a third of all poor white people live in the south are nearly 60% of black people are poor, low wage. but the majority of people who are poor and low wage are white. over 40, 40 million more than the number of black folk in raw numbers. the largest demographic of poverty is among women, men, white women. and our children now are 51% of all children are poor and low wage. these are serious matters, and we have serious power. so this is an offensive move.

we're calling on people to come by the thousands, by the thousands, to join with us. this is a time for a mass mobilization of consciousness, to call people to to to vote. we don't just need a political vote this year. we need a movement vote that's not based on party, but based on principle, based on where people stand on critical issues. so we're calling on for that. this is a nonviolent why we are the resurrection, not an insurrection. that's why we're coming. and we're not. we're saying the last picture of what a dc ought not be, people taking the capital up and trying to tear democracy down. we need a picture of folk trying to build a democracy up and lift up all people regardless of who they are, regardless of who they are. so that's why we're coming. ronald hansen is national political reporter with the arizona republic, here to talk about the us senate race in that state. ronald hansen when kyrsten sinema said she would not seek

another term, what was the impact of that on this senate race? you know, it really did have a significant impact. there's been sort of some mystery around this race since she switched to an independent in late 2022. it really made it difficult, i think, to get a fix on what the shape of this race really was. she was an incumbent senator who used to raise a lot of money. it there was no indication that she was going to jump into the race, but she never really pulled out of it either. so i think from a polling perspective, if only it really sort of made it difficult to get a read on what dynamics people were even going to face that has cleared up. in the past month, though, there have been other newsworthy items that have sort of reshaped the race as well. right before we get to those who's running right now, we have u.s. representative ruben gallego, though he is the only prominent democrat running in

this race. we have two notable republic wins running in a primary that is former gubernatorial candidate carrie lake. she is a former tv broadcast writer here locally and ran and lost the 2022 governor's race in arizona. we also have pinal county sheriff mark lamb. he is from a county that sits roughly between phenix and tucson. i'm what is the primary race like between those two and what are the polls showing? carrie lake is really sort of the presumed favorite. the almost presumptive nominee in waiting. there has been no significant polling that has been public facing that suggests anything to the contrary. the national republican senatorial committee has notably already endorsed carrie lake and thrown in with her. they are raising money with her.

they have put an ad out on behalf of her effort, in a sense, by going after ruben gallego. there is no indication that the nrc is anything other than fully behind carrie lake, who also, it should be mentioned, has the endorsement of former president donald trump as well. so this is a primary race really in name only in many respects. there is a possibility they will have a debate at the end of june and that could help tip this race. i think the real question is, much like we saw in a lot of the republican presidential primaries is how strongly will lake do given she's running against somebody who's really struggled to raise money and has nowhere near the visibility that she does? what are her strengths and her weaknesses in this race for carrie lake? i think the strength is that in a republican primary, she is far and away very popular with

republican voters. she is very closely identified with former president trump. she is someone who is sort of that america first maga style politician writ large. the problem in a general election is all of those same things are still true in a state that is drifting to the political middle and where she figures to not have as many financial resources, perhaps as congressman gallego and she has a record that is that has already failed with voters once. and could be problematic. moving ahead into november. and congressman gallegos, strengths and weaknesses. yeah, i think his strength is number one. he doesn't have a primary really to get through. he also has a pretty good fundraising track record. and since senator cinema's departure from this race, he has also picked up the endorsements

of senator cinema seatmate senator mark kelly, who is among the most prolific fund raisers in the country and is really already put carrie lake on his radar screen. he has made that a priority of his to help defeat carrie lake. so for ruben gallego, there's no primary to get through. he has a lot of financial resources and a lot of national democrats want to see him do well. his biggest challenge, i think, in this race at this point is he's not especially well known throughout the state. he's known in the phenix area, but more broadly, he's still relatively undeveloped and that becomes a question of who's going to define ruben gallego for the moment, he has the resources to help send out that message. the nrsc see. and in a second everyway carry lake. they are trying to define him they have made note of his divorce from phenix mayor kate

gallego. there was a that happened just before mayor griego gave birth to their first and only child. so this is sort of a personal line of attack that will stand in contrast, i'm sure, to what we're going to hear a lot about abortion rights from congressman gallego as it relates to carrie lake. right. what are the issues? what are the the policy issues that are driving this senate race? we had in arizona a supreme court ruling that essentially upheld the 1864 abortion ban, that abortion bans abortions in nearly all cases, except for the life of the mother. this is suddenly really placed itself at the fore of a lot of concerns. it could bring in a new swath of voters who might have been only marginally engaged. it is something that has added

new resources, new energy, new money. it's the kind of thing that feels like it is a significant event that republicans don't feel is going to run to their benefit. so that is something that the democrats certainly want to keep front and center. on the other side, republican and have really had a pretty effective line of attack as it relates to border and security issues. this state numbers from mexican immigrant and others has been through the roof really since the dawn of the biden administration and the phenix area in particular has been among the hardest hit as it relates to inflation. and so that whole inflation and public safety sort of arguments have been pretty effective here, both for former president trump and for carrie lake in terms of really trying to keep the heat on democrats to make the case that they deserve to keep power.

but again, the injection of the abortion issue, along with just a sense but again, the injection of the abortion issue along with a sense that perhaps kari lake is a bridge too far i think that's what you see the contours of the strays. >> would you say the fate of these candidates are tied to the presidential candidates, or could to be a split ticket scenario? >> i think s there's definitely the possibility of a split ticket but it's a relatively low one. the idea that ruben gallego could out run president biden i think is possible depending on how issues play themselves out heading into the fall. i've not seen any polling suggesting kari lake can out run donald trump. i think if it's a good night for president trump you would expect kari lake might have enough support to pull across the finish line. if it's a good night for president biden, there's almost no chance kari lake can out run

donald trump at this point. >> what about rumors kari lake is on the former presidents shortlist as a vice presidential candidate? if she were to be picked, what then happens? >> yeah, that with so arizona's senate race into a good deal of tumult. they do have republican candidate in the wings in mark lam. the would be a they could turn to if it happened to have primary. if it resulted in more extraordinary circumstances where they had to go back and find somebody and renominate them through r sort of party means, intraparty means, again they have candidatete off-the-shelf who's been engaged in this race. but i think realistically former president trump has had the opportunity to show that kind of support for kari lake, and he

has said explicitly that he thinks she's going to make a great senator. it's really interpreted as sort of the final lock that that's where you're going, you're going to be in the senate race. she has been a prominent surrogate especially in iowa for the trump campaign, but there's been not a lot of chatter about her being a serious contender at this point, though where theac trump canvas is involved certainly surprise as part of the events we seen many times over the years. >> national political reporter with the arizona republic, thank you for yourim >> thank you. >> a remde this program and all of c-span's campaign 2024 coverage can be found online at c-span.org/campaign. >> today, ways to combat threats posed by artificial intelligence and biosecurity hosted by the

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